December 26, 2004

Sid on 27 Dec 2004

Do you really think Potter will vote renew it in light of the majorly botched Mayfield case? Will the council be having a public hearing on this? If you know, keep me posted.

Thanks.

The One True b!X on 27 Dec 2004

Well, newspaper reports say (depending on which paper) that Potter supports the work of the JTTF, and/or that he wants the proper clearances before deciding. Presumably he'll get the same clearance Katz received, but then there's the question of whether he will consider that sufficient (note: it isn't).

As for eharing, there will be one at some point, but the ordinance hasn't been rescheduled yet.

JACK PEEK on 31 Dec 2004

Know some rank in file Portland cops as well as one supervisor, they think Potter will renew it and Leonard needs to have his prostate removed again.

The One True b!X on 31 Dec 2004

Resorting to personal attacks now, are we, Jack?

As for Potter, he can vote to renew it, but he can't simply renew it on his own. And if he and Saltzman end up being the only "yes" votes, then his vote won't matter.

JACK PEEK on 01 Jan 2005

Attacks???? Can you not take a joke? New year "True", less stress, loosen up there boy, you are way too tight.

Yes, I agree, the fix is in already.

There is a "GAME" these people play each time, but the end is always the same.

Perhaps on this terror issue you can espouses on the laser deal. Is this something you will ignore as won't happen here at PDX?

JACK PEEK on 01 Jan 2005

If we have no weapons to find the assets of radical groups such as the one below, or as I have said."go to a gunfight, with the magazine half empty." How do you suppose we catch the badguys...now here is the hard part, BEFORE, they do us again?

The answer is we use "ALL" ammo available.

CAIR's founder, Nihad Awad, declared in a 1994 meeting at Barry University that he was "a supporter of the Hamas movement." [4] (http://www.sullivan-county.com/x/acair.htm). Shortly after the 9/11 attacks, CAIR's website solicited donations for the “NY/DC Emergency Relief Fund." This fund did not exist; instead, the link in question led directly to the website for donations to the HLF, a charity whose assets were later frozen by the US Treasury department because, according to Secretary Paul O'Neill "HLF “masquerade(d) as a charity, while its primary purpose (was) to fund Hamas.” Officials in positions of authority in CAIR are known to work or have worked with the Islamic Association of Palestine and The Global Relief Foundation, both of which are known to work in tandem with Hamas.

CAIR board member Imam Siraj Wahaj, an un-indicted co-conspirator in the first World Trade Center bombing, has called for replacing the American government with an Islamic caliphate, and warned that America will crumble unless it accepts Islam. A number of other CAIR officials have been convicted of crimes related to the support of Islamic terrorism. CAIR's director of community relations, Bassem Khafagi (“Khafagi”), was arrested by the United States due to his ties with a terror-financing front group while he was employed by CAIR. Khafagi pled guilty to charges of visa and bank fraud, and agreed to be deported to Egypt. On December 18, 2002, Ghassan Elashi, founding board member of CAIR-Texas and a founder of the HLF, was arrested by the United States and charged with, among other things, making false statements on export declarations, dealing in the property of a designated terrorist organization, conspiracy and money laundering. On August 2003 an employee from CAIR's Virginia offices, Randall "Ismail" Royer, was arrested on terrorism-related charges. (cf JDL); later in 2003, Senator Charles Schumer stated that “we know [CAIR] has ties to terrorism.”

CAIR's leadership and members are also alleged to have supported organizations such as Hezbollah. Both Hezbollah and Hamas have been classified by the U.S. State Department as terrorist organizations. Among the other charges leveled against it are affiliation with Islamist imams, the instigation of death threats against moderate American Muslims, and the promotion of anti-Semitism. Many other Muslim organizations in the United States have condemned CAIR.

Shaykh Muhammad Hisham Kabbani of the Islamic Supreme Council of America (ISCA) speaks of CAIR and the American Muslim Council (AMC) saying, "There are many Muslim organizations that claim to speak on behalf of the Muslim community but that in reality are not moderate, but extremist." Seif Ashmawy, an Egyptian Muslim and peace activist who published the "Voice of Peace" newsletter about Muslim affairs, says: "It is a known fact that both the AMC and CAIR have defended, apologized for, and rationalized the actions of extremists groups [...] The real challenge for moderates like myself is to prevent my Muslim brethren from [being] deceived by extremist groups that pretend to represent their interests." Steven Pomerantz, former FBI assistant director and chief of the FBI's counterterrorism section, once charged that CAIR's activities "effectively give aid to international terrorist groups". Other American Muslim leaders have raised questions about their possible alliances with radical groups, and many academics are disturbed by the groups' prominence.

In 2004, CAIR initiated a lawsuit against Andrew Whitehead, a prominent critic of CAIR and the maintainer of an Anti-CAIR (http://www.anti-cair-net.org/) website. CAIR is suing Whitehead for $1.35 million [5] (http://home.hamptonroads.com/stories/print.cfm?story=68531&ran=62422). Whitehead's law firm has counter-sued on his behalf [6] (http://www.anti-cair-net.org/Response.html).

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External links
CAIR website (http://www.cair.com/)
Anti-CAIR website (http://www.anti-cair-net.org/)
Salon.com: Islam's flawed spokesmen (http://archive.salon.com/news/feature/2001/09/26/muslims/print.html)
Washington Post: Va. 'Jihad' Suspects: 11 Men, Two Views (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A31586-2003Aug7.html)
2003 article on CAIR's increasing legal troubles .

So, True, Why not go loaded? But here in Portland, Randy Leonard wants to lose this fight.

Jack Peek on 03 Jan 2005

Thanks again for posting on the JTTF.

The lack of your response or Randy Leonard's prove to me I'm correct that the fact groups like the above(CAIR) exist here, and need to be rooted out by any means possible, or the "next ground zero" maybe closer to home.

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